In my previous blog post –, some of you asked us why we don’t offer file syncing solutions between NAS server and PC. Today, I am really happy to announce DSM 4.0 beta offers you improved experience to manage your files, including Cloud Station and File Station. In this article, let’s explore how Cloud Station enables you to sync your files between your computers and DiskStation automatically. I’ll be talking about File Station in another post.
Cloud Station – Be More Productive at Work Sometimes it’s inevitable to work at home. A few weeks earlier I was preparing the presentation slides of the upcoming DSM 4.0 beta, and constantly adding new ideas into it. Every day when I leave office, I uploaded the presentation file to the DiskStation, and downloaded it from DiskStation when I was back in my home.
Well, the repetitive uploading and downloading work between my laptop and DiskStation was bound to cause disaster. So there was one morning I screamed out (loudly) in the office. Because I had just realized that I accidently overwrote the new file with the old one. It was really frustrating because I have to re-do it. Is it possible to sync all of my important files automatically? The answer is yes – we offer with DSM 4.0 beta today, meaning you are able to access your files more easily without constant downloading & uploading task.
So the risk of overwriting the wrong files like I did could be avoided. The best thing is that I can have access to the latest of my documents on any of my computers. Works likes a charm =) And what happens when I am using a public computer, but need to access the files in Cloud Station? Simple, I can access it with File Station. One more thing – Whenever I mess up the document, I can still get the previous versions and get the rollback.
With Cloud Station, working between different places is much more simplified. You don’t have to worry about identifying which file is the latest version, because they are always up-to-date. Best of all, you can use it anywhere, no router configuration is required! For example, if you have a DiskStation placed in your campus accommodation, it is likely that you can’t assign it to a public IP address. Don’t worry, even without any network settings, you can still sync your files remotely with Synology’s ezCloud.
As long as your DiskStation has access to the Internet, files could be sync automatically as they should be. This makes a step forward to build your personal cloud easier than before. Okay, I’ve spent a whole day and have finally gotten my work done, I am going to send the documents to my partners and clients to share the new features and enhancement of DSM 4.0. How can I share them? Let’s talk about File Station in my next blog post. 103 Comments.
My choice of getting my first Synology nas (DS411j) just gets better and better with every DSM upgrade! Awesome, thanks! I have been running the beta for a few weeks and it seems to work perfectly for me. The “being your own cloud” features is taking a great step up with the dropbox similar function, a really good feature! A private dropbox solution without limits.
The file sharing is the first step, and to complete my personal cloud even more I’m dreaming of a good syncronisation software for us home users that works similar to exchange. Where i can syncronize my old fashion mail which uses smtp/pop3, calender, tasks and contacts so i can use the information seemless between outlook on my pc, apple, mirosoft or google smartphone and tablet. I think that Im one of many users out there who love using outlook/eqivalent on the desktop and laptop but have a hard time syncronizing it with android, iphone an such other platforms. Maby this is not Synologys main focus but there seems to be a lot of frustratated users like me around the globe which have found out that cross platform syncronisation today is not quite that easy as it sounds and would love to get a simple solution to this.
And the Synology device would then really become the heart of my digital life even more than it is today ? And being a swede hooked on home automation I’m also dreaming about getting support for the Telldus usb Tellstick and its software as a package in package center to automate my electrical devices at home. Its an open souce based (software runs on almost every platform) that works brilliant running on other linux based units like the Linksys NSLU2 and would complement the synology nas perfectly ?.
Is there a way to stop this syncing over the internet. I only want to sync while I am connected to the LAN, not over the internet. Is there a way to run this as a windows service? So that a PC will sync if a user isn’t logged in. What will happen if I log in to the PC as 2 different users at the same time, and both are set to sync from the same user on the NAS? Does this support incremental file copy, or does it recopy the entire file every time the file changes.
I am worried that would suck up bandwidth syncing over the internet. I brought my DS212j a week ago and have been messing about over the last couple of days with Cloudstation and symbolic links, have you had a play with this? I use multiple PCs on which I have individual My Documents folders – which I want to be able to keep separate but access from each PC. I don’t want to drag the My Documents folder into the Cloudstation folder so created a link folder in the cloudstation folder and have setup a symbolic link to it from My Documents. I have done this on a couple of my PCs and it appeared to kinda work I add a new file to My Documents, it appears in the link folder in Cloudstation.
It wouldn’t sync with the cloud until I rebooted the PC or restarted the cloudstation app but I could live with that. But then I found that when I delete a life in My Documents it gets restored from the cloud.
I guess this is working by design? I have been doing the same thing with my dropbox account for the last month or so (symbolic link between My Docs and dropbox folder) and thats been working fine and doesnt restore when docs are deleted. Curious to see if anyone else has played around with this?
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If I can’t get it to work as I’d hoped I’ll have to consider physically dropping all my ‘My Documents’ folders into Cloudstation which is something I didn’t really want to do! Hi Darren, RE: No of Users limitation with Cloudstation Good article. I really like Cloudstation, but I am having a real problem getting my head around the artificial limitation of clients based on the synology box. What is going on? I have purchased a number of Synology boxes for coprorates etc and purchased a DS211J for my own family usage and really liked the idea of being to backup my kids files from college etc. ( 4 users – limited usage of backup etc.
) Now I find you placed a limitation of 2 clients for Cloudstation on this platform and limits on other larger devices. Can you change your marketing pages / videos on the website to reflect this, as in my view its misleading. There is no mention of this limitation on the sales materials. Can you explain why the limitation? I will not be buying a larger box given my requirements and the likly patterns of usage.
Are you going to ask for additional license fees for more clients? Which in my view goes against the original Synology value proposition.
Many thanks in advance for your resposne, Simon. Hi Darren, My wife got me a Synology 1511+ full of 3TB drives for Christmas. It really is a nice system, but I am confused about the seemingly confused and conflicting Synology policies and practices. Hi, thanks for making this available for Mac clients as well.
However, I have an immediate feature request: It should be possible to connect to several accounts. One scenario for this is: I have my own Synology at home with private files and synchronize to it. Now it is not possible to synchronize to a company’s Synology at work using the same account.
It would be great to connect to have two separate folders on the same user account on my Mac, one synchronizing to the Home-Synology, the other to the Company-Synology. Thanks Ulli. I waited for months for the Mac version of Cloudstation to come out. It seemed perfect for what I wanted. Alas, after a couple of weeks of extreme frustration I’ve given up. It’s just a mass of bugs.
The main show-stoppers for me are: 1) Every time I edit or delete a file it simply re-creates it with a longer file name. I’ve got hundreds of duplicate copies of my iTunes library, documents etc.
Littered all over the place, and no way of getting rid of them. The help page says this happens when there is a sharing conflict, but it happens to me even with all the clients unlinked. 2) I have 30000 files in the recycle bin which need deleting. You can only do that through the web interface 50 files at a time. At that rate I’d be an old man before I was finished. Looking through the forum it seems there are lots of people out there having the same issues, and many more, but nobody is getting any help with them.
Please let me know when it actually works. Maybe I am abusing the tool, but I like the fact that I don’t have to connect to a VPN connection, load a browser, or other “extra” steps to use Cloud Station. I would like to be able to connect to multiple “cloud drives” simultaneously. I am not sure about File Station, so I haven’t given it much though as the “proper” option. Please advise on your recommended approach to access multiple sites (office 1 w/local data cloud; office 2 w/local data cloud 2).
Right now, it looks like I have to unlink and define a new link each time I switch office.
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Deleting the file(s) would put the drive seemingly back in sync, but trying to copy the file back would cause the same issue. One thing I noticed was that when the file was deleted from the affected device, other devices syncing the same folder (including File Station on the NAS itself) would still show the file in its place and all devices were displaying that folder was in sync! In a similar way, if the file was renamed on the affected device, other devices (and File Station) would show both files (original and renamed), but the affected PC would only have the renamed version. Again, Cloud Station on all devices would think that everything was in sync. The work around was to delete the affected file from File Station web interface (make a backup first). After this, the affected PC would immediately upload the file back and Cloud Station would then sync it across all other drives.
This is obviously pretty serious issue as it leaves synced folders in inconstant state while displaying that everything is is sync. If this happens again, I will raise the issue with Synology. August 2016 Synology Cloud Station 4.1 Windows 10 Pro.
For those of you using a NAS for storage and mapping your drives it is important to note that in the November update for Windows 10, Microsoft has somehow changed their supported SMB protocol to 3.1.1 preventing one from mapping their NAS drives. I am not sure if this strictly a Microsoft issue or an issue for the NAS companies to address in firmware. While I have yet to move over to Windows 10 for my Roon Core (or Server) and am still using Windows Server 2012 R2, I was playing around with a Windows 10 machine and after applying the November 'fix/update' my two NAS disappeared from network and the Synology utility while recognizing the NAS could not map the drive. The temporary fix I found, after driving myself crazy for days, resides on the. Firewall is disabled on my W10 machines. I don't join a domain, I use local accounts only.
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Fixed IP address with Google DNS servers. The only package I have enabled on my synology is cloud station. A few iscsi luns.
No WINS server defined on the synology. Same workgroup name on the synology that all my windows machines are in. Encryption is set to auto and smb set to 3 on the synology everything else is the default values. I am using link aggregation on the Synology as I have a Windows Server also set up with link aggregation. My NAS isn't showing up under my network places if that is what you mean? It did in the past, not sure when it disappeared I assume with the problem update you are talking about.
I can put diskation in file explorer and all my shares show up fine, I guess that's why I never new there was a problem. And yes I always just type in my UNC path in my apps I never browse. Euroster 3000 tx pareri. I never use mapped drives, not much need with UNC paths unless of course you like moving your data around and want the consistency of a drive letter that doesn't change. Extracampine: By the way, is a Priaptor a dinosaur who's eaten too much viagra?
LOL, it is actually a handle from the very very very early days of AOL before any GUI interfaces. You are close. Bird of Prey + Priapism pretty much tells the story.
Based on the info from other users on this site, one can indeed just define the path. I think most people who mapped their drives allowing 'reconnect on sign on' didn't notice compared to those of us who started from start trying to map the drive and 'browse' to the drive or 'browse' to the network and found neither worked whereas those who started with original Windows 10 before the November 'fix' had their pathways defined prior to the update preventing one from 'mapping' or disappearing from the network thereby not even noticing.
Here's my backup strategy:. I use Macrium Reflect (Seriously I can't recommend this software enough) to backup the system drive whenever I make serious changes to Windows itself (Service Packs, etc), and keep 2 copies of that on the NAS (the latest one, and the one before that). This allows disaster recovery - I can recover the entire system in one go.
And it uses VSS, so I can use the system while it's backing up - no running it overnight or whatever. Here's the downside: because - like most backup programs - it backs up to an archive, any time I back it up to Amazon Glacier, incremental backups are useless.
Any time the file is changed, it's changed. So it backs up the whole thing. Thankfully I only have to do this once a year or so. But having a complete bare-metal system drive backup has saved my a$$ several times.
To get around this: for daily backups of all the drives, I use FreeFileSync to backup all files to the NAS. It does incremental backups of each individual file. So nightly backups of the files to Glacier don't take much time at all - it only backs up the changed files.
To restore, I simply use Macrium to restore the system drive (it sets itself up as a boot choice in the UEFI BIOS, so no media required, but I have rescue media available just in case). Then use FreeFileSync to write the latest changes over the top of that. 2 months ago I had a system drive corruption problem. Popped in a new drive, let it run for an hour, and poof: like it never happened.